billie jean
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Anyone have any 'Too close for comfort' moments with an elder ? (ladies)
by billie jean inhas anyone ever felt that an elder was perhaps 'coming on' to them ?
i remember three specific occasions where i was alone with these three elders in my congregation on seperate occasions and it just didnt feel right.
one where i was told i was "very attractive" and various other things he'd said made me nervous about my appearance, another where an elder took me to his car after a meeting in a dark car park and seemed to ask too many private questions and another time one of the elders who i thought always had his arms around young sisters too much took me to the 'back room' and sat far too close to me again references about my "attractive face" and other strange compliments.
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FED UP WITH IT ALL !
by billie jean inhi, i haven't used this for a long time, due to the feeling of not needing to.
i've been getting on with life, fine, for some time now.
so been out 10 years, parents and other family still in.. well i guess i'm just asking how you cope, really, my family are becoming worse with me, and my son, (who has autism), little by little, and just the general putting the jw life before everything else, including me, my child, life in general, simple things and keeping us at arms length, it's really hard, as i have a relative trying to dig dirt on me, spreading it round the family in order to try and cause more upset for me.. so just a simple question, on how you've all coped in this situation.. thanks .
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Just a thought on blood
by billie jean indon't get me wrong i'm not a vegan coming on here with facts about this, and that, but i've just been reading about milk or should i say any dairy products containing, pus and blood.
apparently it is always there no matter how pasturised the products are.
i was wondering if any dubs were aware of this ?
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So forgive me i never listened at the meetings
by billie jean ini still don't know who's at the top of the organisation ?
names ?
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Are they ??
by billie jean inare they slowing coming to an end or 'wrapping it up' ?
i heard this the other day and confronted my j.w parents with it, of course they denied it..
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Just a little note for people still in.....
by billie jean ini'd just simply like to say to anyone who's still in and trying to break free, that there is hope that others (family still in) may see sense and not disown you entirely, sometimes things can seem more frightening than they really are and we can't see that untill we've tried it.
once the hard part is over you just have to 'stick to your guns' it is extremely hard especially if you're alone in leaving but it does get easier over time.
i'm fully aware of families totaly disowning you and this is the hardest part but the freeness of mind and feeling of liberation, along with hopefully better mental health, for yourself and children (if you have any) i'd say personally is well worth not staying in a miserable organisation like this..
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JONESTOWN CULT
by billie jean inplease excuse my english ways but i've just watched a documentary on the jonestown cult and i was struck by the similarities between this cult and the the organisation.
i know this has most probably been discussed a lot but i was just wondering, for my own reasons what other people think about this ?
and if there are any similarities ?
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Not been on for AGES but need to rant
by billie jean ini've not used any boards for a long time because i felt i'd got what i needed from them and felt i needed to 'move on' for want of a better word.
i've just come back from staying at my j.w parents house for a few days (which was long enough) we don't usually bring the subject of 'it' up but the other night i got it all, the bile was out, they were on defensive mode, to the point of shouting, insulting me, telling me that they'll 'cut me off' if they find out i'm apostate, then laughing at me and causing me to actualy feel worthless it was unreal.
i told them i'm an atheist and tried to tell them what the 'truth' does and what it really is but i got absolutely nowhere.
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SEX
by billie jean ini don't mean to sound crude but ive always wondered what witnesses are allowed to do in their marriage (sex wise) only i always imagined that they wouldn't ever deviate from the 'missionary possition' and what about oral sex, is that allowed ?.
i spoke to an 'on the fence' old friend of mine a while ago he'd recently married and he said that a sister in their congregation had told his wife that anything other than 'missionary' was totaly out, he was angry at this statement and told me he thought it was "a matter of conscience" .
but i'm still curious !
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Help needed, how can i ?
by billie jean ini've not been on for a while as i havent felt the 'need' but ive just logged in and read some very interesting posts as usual.
well i'm off to stay with my very witness parents very soon (for a few days, which is long enough) i do love them but its very hard being around them a lot of the time.
im fully aware that we have to come to our own decisions on the matter of realisation but i was wondering if anyone has any tips as to where i could start in craftily helping them, giving them something to perhaps think about ??